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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty View Post
    Whatever happened to the 00:1A:78 rule for STB Emulator apps (Stalker based), reserving 79 for the STB's with hard coded MAC's?
    If you have to internally change the MAC# in a STB app, they should use 78, avoiding the problem of someone randomly making up a MAC, that will "eventually" get registered to a new STB.

    ...Just an observation!
    BIO who was one of the original staff members when all this iptv started getting more popular, he had predicted back in 2014 that MAC spoofs would happen.. it was identifiable.

    His solution (and BIO was a computer/networking genius), his solution at the time for them '78' MACs was to use the last 6 digits of the receiver's own MAC (that statement from BIO is still posted here somewhere).
    That receiver's MAC would start with the first 6 digits as a number of different digits other then 00:1a:79... but the last 6 were sure to be an original sequence so could be attached to the created '78' MAC and have the knowledge that you did not spoof another MAC.

    I do not know much about how the connectivity on them methods that use the '78' as I actually have never went that route, believe it or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty View Post
    Whatever happened to the 00:1A:78 rule for STB Emulator apps (Stalker based), reserving 79 for the STB's with hard coded MAC's?
    If you have to internally change the MAC# in a STB app, they should use 78, avoiding the problem of someone randomly making up a MAC, that will "eventually" get registered to a new STB.

    ...Just an observation!
    Stalker and other similar middleware, use that 79 MAC thru their IPTV platform. It is not the receiver's MAC
    Them devices that do not have this iptv platform can not log on with a 79 mac as the server would know it is not coming thru a stalker platform, so would be rejected.
    It must have the 78 so the server sees it as a emulation of said platform. And vise versa for receivers with the middleware. If they tried logging on witha 78 MAC, the server would see it does not compute as it is coming from a stalker application.

    or something like that
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    What a poorly thought out system!
    So, 79 MAC #'s, must be issued, or controlled, by Infomir, and provided to STB manufacturers that incorporate apps that use the Stalker(Ministra) Middleware client.
    *(No 2 STB's can have the same MAC#)

    But, ...they allow a feature that lets a user "make up" a random 79 MAC#, to overide the STB's actual MAC. ???

    IMO, ...Asking for problems!

    Anyway, nice to brainstorm with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooty View Post
    What a poorly thought out system!
    So, 79 MAC #'s, must be issued, or controlled, by Infomir, and provided to STB manufacturers that incorporate apps that use the Stalker(Ministra) Middleware client.
    *(No 2 STB's can have the same MAC#)

    But, ...they allow a feature that lets a user "make up" a random 79 MAC#, to overide the STB's actual MAC. ???

    IMO, ...Asking for problems!

    Anyway, nice to brainstorm with you.
    my buzz's actual mac addy is no where close to being either 78 or 79...lol

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    you are not quite understanding it Shooty.
    The middlewere is not only on the receiver but also the server has a middleware solution program that works on their servers.
    That program is what sees the MAC and that MAC is not the receivers MAC... it is the IPTV platform's MAC (the stalker).
    All receivers will have their own MAC and each sets of digits all mean something.
    All receivers with a middlewre program will not only have their own unique MAC for the receiver but the middleware IPTV application will also have a separate MAC as well (that's the 79 MAC).
    "The illusion of freedom will continue for as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will take down the scenery, move the tables and chairs out of the way, then they will pull back the curtains and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazed 8.4 View Post
    you are not quite understanding it Shooty.
    The middlewere is not only on the receiver but also the server has a middleware solution program that works on their servers.
    That program is what sees the MAC and that MAC is not the receivers MAC... it is the IPTV platform's MAC (the stalker).
    All receivers will have their own MAC and each sets of digits all mean something.
    All receivers with a middlewre program will not only have their own unique MAC for the receiver but the middleware IPTV application will also have a separate MAC as well (that's the 79 MAC).
    Thanks for the info.
    I do get it, though I probably did not explain it well enough.

    wiki info;
    A Media Access Control (MAC) address is a 48-bit (6 bytes) address that is used for communication between two hosts in an Ethernet environment. It is a hardware address, which means that it is stored in the firmware of the network card.


    Every network card manufacturer gets a universally unique 3-byte code called the Organizationally Unique Identifier (OUI).
    Manufacturers agree to give all NICs a MAC address that begins with the assigned OUI. The manufacturer then assigns a unique value for the last 3 bytes, which ensures that every MAC address is globaly unique.


    00:1A:79 is most likely issued to Infomir, and used as the MAC prefix & encoded "Uniquely" in the MAG Firmware or each disseminated Stalker Client.
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    Making up a MAC#, is what is causing the problem that you mention.

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    me i like the 79 for boxes and 78 for stalker but thats dead

 

 
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