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    Walking Dead Spoilers, News & Talk

    "Conquer" is a strong title for a season-ending episode. Thumbs up. That’s what’s ahead in The Walking Dead Season 5Season 5, Episode 16, which airs this Sunday, March 29 at 9 p.m. ET and will last an extra 30 minutes. Hopefully at least 10 of those minutes contains actual footage, not comercials. All of the Alexandria-set episode titles appear to be tied to Dale’s Faulkner quote about time from back in Season 1. But they chose "Conquer" for the finale, so who will conquer what?

    AMC shared its usual promo and two sneak peeks, then shared an extra brief but juicy preview when promoting the weekend marathon. Since this finale episode is supersized, and they have never teased Morgan even once this season, there’s a lot the promos won’t be telling us about what happens next. But here are some things we learn from the promos, along with a few filming and comic book spoilers that could help out with the context.


    We need to talk about Rick


    We could talk about Rick all day long and consider it a day well spent. The people of Alexandria? Maybe not. AMC's promo starts with a close-up of Rick's bandaged face (looking close to the comic) then shows Deanna leading a group meeting, apparently at night in front of a fire. She says, "We're going to talk about Rick Grimes." Curious to see if this goes as well as Dale's let's talk about Randall meeting in Season 2, where it was basically Dale vs. Shane (again) with Andrea jumping in on Dale's side at the end while everyone else basically looked at their feet, waiting for someone else to make the tough decision. No one wants to take blame so they stay silent.

    Alexandrians in fear

    Is that let's talk about Rick, bay-bee scene also where Jessie and a group of Alexandrians look scared? That shot is in the newer, shorter promo. (See below) They all look afraid, and they seem to be facing a fire, so it could be in the same scene.


    Maggie defends Rick

    AMC's first sneak peek shows Maggie — who has been working with Deanna on the political side — talking to Deanna and Reg. Deanna asks what Maggie needs to talk about. Maggie says the meeting tonight. Deanna says she wants to talk to everyone about what happened and what we need to do about it. (Why not just do nothing, as usual? She's used to turning a blind eye to problem people like Pete, Nicholas and her own son.) Maggie says, "If it includes turning Rick away, it's not gonna work." Deanna says to tell her what that means. Maggie says she let all of them in. She talked to them and decided. Now she wants to put that decision on frightened people who might not have the whole story. That's not leadership. Reg says tonight is just a forum for people to speak their minds. Deanna says she'll make the decision as she has done since the beginning. Maggie says Rick was frustrated, the things he's seen, the things they've all lost. Deanna notes that Rick took a gun and pointed it at people. Maggie says he didn't pull the trigger. Reg points out that Michonne stopped him. Michonne, a member of his own group. Deanna says she's going to do what she has to do. What will that be? She seems smart enough to be able to see through guys like Nicholas, even if she hasn't done anything about it, so would she really exile Rick, knowing that it means they would be losing all of his team?


    Rick - perp walk?

    In the promo, we see Rick walk down the sidewalk in between a group of guys. Is he headed to some kind of trial? Going to whatever passes for Alexandria's jail? And for heaven's sake, why is Nicholas not locked up? If anyone deserves to be locked up, it's Nicholas. And Pete. Rick just needed a time out. Later in the promo, Rick appears to walk past Deanna's house, or wherever she is looking down from. It does seem like he's about to face his judgment. Maybe she’s made her decision and she’s going to share it. In the comic, Douglas Monroe and Rick had a heart-to-heart; Douglas shared the story of Alexandria’s founder and how he had to be exiled. Rick shared the story of Shane and Lori and how he never wanted to be leader to begin with. Maybe they’ll do a version of that here, with Deanna explaining why she felt the need to exile those people she mentioned back in Episode 12.

    Glenn checks in

    We see Glenn asking Rick, "Did you want this?" Is this in Rick's room, like a quarantine place? Rick answers, "No. I hit my limit."

    Knife out

    Who is that breaking out the knife in the dark? It looks like it might be Rick’s bandaged face.

    Father Gabriel, what are you doing?

    Super curious about Gabriel. He is seen appearing to return to Alexandria in the main promo. He's wearing a white shirt and even his demeanor is different. The shorter newer promo shows a guy in a white shirt, seems to be the same one, stabbing a walker in the road. So not something Gabriel would do so are we seeing this wrong or what?


    Daryl and Aaron on the move

    Only a couple of shots of Daryl and Aaron in the finale promo. The first shows them walking through a field during the day, possibly trying to chase that light they saw in the distance in Episode 15. Brave of them, if that's the case, but they want the story behind the upswing in walkers. Or maybe they just want to see if whoever is at the light wants to be recruited. Maybe it's Morgan! Later in the promo, Daryl and Aaron run past a trailer. According to The Spoiling Dead Fans filming spoilers from the set, the writing on the trailer is "how the harvest gets home." Their source said we will see some of The Wolves this week, so get ready.

    Hand over the gun


    As someone pointed out for us, this gun hand-off appears to be from Rick (bandaged hand) to Michonne (tie). In the comic, after she knocked him out, she said to get his gun. Maybe he got another weapon and he's trying to give it back; her hand suggests she's saying to keep it.

    Sasha aims

    Sasha appears to be inside some house and she's aiming her sniper rifle. What is she aiming at? Is she in the same house that Rick is in, in the mini promo?


    Glenn seems to sob

    There are a couple of shots of Glenn in the promo, beyond asking Rick if he wanted this. We see Glenn pass a walker in the woods, so we know he goes outside the gate. Later, we see Glenn at night, almost looking like he's crying. The Spoiling Dead Fans tackled this one, and their source said this is tied to Nicholas (who dug up the gun he stole from Rick's blender). The said Nicholas shoots Glenn in the shoulder and, in this particular shot, Glenn is actually pointing a gun to Nicholas' head. He doesn't seem to shoot, though. He spares his life and carries Nicholas away. All life is precious to Glenn.

    Walkers in Alexandria?


    The Spoiling Dead Fans said walkers don't overrun Alexandria, but the shorter promo seems to show a walker either in Alexandria or outside a house that seems to be in the area. Rick is there, with his coat on, like he's outside. Where is that, though?

    Rick's weapon

    Toward the end of the promo, Rick takes a serrated weapon out of a sleeve. Is that his red machete? If so, did Carol give it to him, or Glenn or Michonne?


    Carol vs. Pete

    In the Talking Dead sneak peek, Carol knocks on the door, then barges into Pete's house (with another casserole?) and tells him to check on Tara. He tells her to get out. She breaks out her knife. "I could kill you right now. I could. I will. And then, who would believe I did it because I didn't like you? No one. They'd believe you tried to hurt me. They'd definitely believe that." Pete looks terrified. Is he really in any state to be helping Tara, though? Not saying Tara dies. Apparently no one in Rick's group dies, which is good news.
    There are some big answers on what happens, but still many more questions and surprises ahead!
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    M Wife! loves this show everything stops at 9pm Sunday night and then I hear the oohs and ahhhs..

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    You have a cool wife Jetta, but I would sleep with one eye open just in case..

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    haha lmao!

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    Excellent season finale,

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    6 Reasons Why Glenn Isn't Dead. #6 is Rock Solid Proof.

    #1. He's Filmed More Episodes
    Glenn has been spotted filming episodes with characters that have not yet been introduced this season, namely "Jesus"

    #2: IMDB Credits
    He is also listed as appearing in all 83 episodes on IMDB.

    #3: He's Part of a Major Plot Twist
    Glenn is part of a major plot twist that happens in The Walking Dead comics. Though the TV show does veer off from the comics to a certain extent, it is highly unlikely that they would omit Glenn from this major plot point.

    #4: Executive Producer David Alpert pretty much admitted it.
    In an interview with MTV, Walking Dead Executive Producer David Alpert had this to say, "He's the guy who's never killed anybody in cold blood. He’s always been that guy. So the moment last night — regardless of what’s happened to Glenn — the Glenn as good angel, I believe, is dead."

    So basically he is saying that the old Glenn is dead, meaning he is still alive just a different person after this ordeal.

    #5: Talking Dead
    Glenn was not shown as deceased at the end of the Talking Dead during the "those we lost segment", and also did not appear on the Talking Dead afterwards. Usually when characters die they appear on the show to talk about it.

    #6: Nicholas is on Top of Glenn
    As we can see from the fall, Nicholas is on top of Glenn in mid fall. Glenn lands first, so only sense would tell us that Glenn is on the bottom

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    Finally tonight, soon we will find out if Glenn is dead!!!!

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    The Walking Dead is known for some serious cliffhangers and last week’s show was no different. It appeared that a major character had fallen victim to a pack of zombies, but it couldn’t possibly be true …could it?

    Stop reading now if you aren’t caught up on this season of The Walking Dead and/or don’t like spoilers.

    Last week’s show ended with delivery-boy-turned-badass Glenn Rhee at the bottom of a zombie pig pile, but there was a lot of doubt about whether he was actually dead. It looked like Nicholas (Michael Traynor) could have protected Glenn from the Walker attack, meaning that the best character on the show could have escaped a gruesome fate. That hope may have ended this week, though. Sunday’s show gave fans a major hint that Glenn is no longer among the living—actor Steven Yeun’s name was removed from both the opening and end credits. For many, that is confirmation that the fan favorite is really and truly gone.

    However, last week The Walking Dead’s showrunner Scott Gimple offered a different take as he addressed the uproar on the after-show series, The Talking Dead. “In some way, we will see Glenn, some version of Glenn or parts of Glenn again, either in flashback or in the current story to help complete the story,” Gimple said. He didn’t go into details, but the phrase “parts of Glenn” is intriguing for fans eager to keep the character on the show, even as a zombie. So there may be hope–or there may just be a bunch of flashbacks to remind the audience of how great it was when Glenn was still on the show.

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    hes dead ............

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    my wife is crying like he is a real person, and pissed off because she watched a full hour and a half and still she does have the definite answer....LOL

 

 
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